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Postby subobeyliminal » Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:25 pm

Six pages, whoot. ^^ I'm still working on the last three...but after those, it's off to the submissions world! X3

I'm going to re-do that third panel on page three...it is the bane of my existence...::hisses::

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Postby Kirse » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:35 pm

its really sick n' awesome so far, but even though i could barely read it I still managed to read the whole thing. So whats the subject of it?
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Postby subobeyliminal » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:54 pm

Heh, sorry 'bout the size...I shouldn't have re-sized it so small...^^;

What's the subject? What do you mean by that...::ish confused::
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Postby Kirse » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:08 pm

I could manage with da size but what i mean with the sub. is that all its talking about is a squirrel that wants a few chicks dead, or is that the subject of the whole thing
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Postby subobeyliminal » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:49 pm

Ah. No, no, this is just chapter one. ^^ The whole thing is really long...I just have to draw it. :x

It's mostly about revenge...it's a bit complicated, so unless you want a page of explaination...I'll just say that Zoe was abandoned in Brazil at age 2 by her mentally unstable mother, (her mother had made a new life for herself that Zoe didn't fit in...she is at the time pregnant with Emmy) then raised by a goddess when she got lost in a forest, her hate was nurtured, she was sent back to the US to kill her half-sister and parents, (the goddess wants her step-dad dead 'cause he's the head of a construction company that's destroying her forest) She meets up with her half-sister Emmy in the High School, (she remember the town that she was born in, so she went there first to look) and has many adventures through which Zoe's past (the stuff above) is revealed through flashbacks. (this is the part that takes forever to explain...so I won't, 'cause it's not got much to do with nderstanding the plot. XP) Emmy is in the same grade as Zoe because she's a super-brain of sorts...adorable, clever, innocent...she be perfect. So she's ahead two grades. Zoe is sixteen. (the coming of age thing fits in as well in the whole theme section of my plot organization)

And then there's the nail-biting conclusion...which I won't tell you. 'cause I'm evil. X3

It's so hard to summarize this story...just 'cause it's never as good in a summary as it is when I spend an hour telling you all the juicy details. :) But this first chapter is partially to explain where Zoe lives, and partially to give you a look into what's happening with She before I introduce Emmy in the third chapter. (Zoe walks to school in the second...oh yeah.That's not boring and arduous for me at all. XD)

Bet that was more than you ever wanted to know, eh?
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Postby Kirse » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:12 pm

oooooohhhh, I gets it now. Seems like a pretty cool story, keep at it
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Postby subobeyliminal » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:30 pm

Whoo!^^ You don't think it's cliche? I dunno...I love stories of betrayal and revenge...but it just seems like they've become pase recently...O_o 'tis the only set back I've got about the plot I've devised...

And I swear, the next person who tells me I'm mimicking Squee with Zoe's mom abandoning her gets an ice pic down the throat tube. ::steams::
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Postby Kirse » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:35 pm

subobeyliminal wrote: Whoo!^^ You don't think it's cliche? I dunno...I love stories of betrayal and revenge...but it just seems like they've become pase recently...O_o 'tis the only set back I've got about the plot I've devised...

And I swear, the next person who tells me I'm mimicking Squee with Zoe's mom abandoning her gets an ice pic down the throat tube. ::steams::

whoa, chillax there. btw, Squee did look awesom but I never read it, I may read it just cause the same guy that did the worx of Invader ZIM did that book
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Postby ryhmy » Mon Apr 11, 2005 4:18 am

Man that looks great :o The only "flaw" I can find is the similarity of some of the panels: the second panel on page 4 is very similiar to the second on page 5. But that's not a real problem.
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Postby subobeyliminal » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:58 pm

Yesh...well, she is making the same expression in those two...but that's cause it's a similar mood...heh. My fault for not varying my camera angles and scopes enough. I do know what you're talking about. ^~ ...Mehbeh they won't notice...O_-

But that's encouraging that you'd buy one...I want so badly to be published...::wrings hands:: I'm meeting with a guy who owns a comic shop and knows Dan Vado...he gonna give me some pointers. ^^
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Postby ryhmy » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:36 am

subobeyliminal wrote:I want so badly to be published...


I know what you mean... Seeing your own album for sale at the local comicstore... That would be soooo cool :|

But I really think you have good chances :)
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Postby subobeyliminal » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:14 pm

ryhmy wrote:I know what you mean... Seeing your own album for sale at the local comicstore... That would be soooo cool :|

But I really think you have good chances :)


Really? ^^ That means a lot coming from such likes yeself...

Seeing my book on a store shelf...::sighs:: ...One of my major dreams is to be at a Con, and to actually have fans that want me to sign their copy of my book...it just brings stars to my eyes thinking about it...::sniffle:: And to see someone wearing my merch. THAT would be sumtin. :wink:

Question, do you think that shying away from gratuitous violence will hurt my chances of being published? 'cause I'm starting work on the next page (the page where the poor little beasties lose their wee lives...) and I'm considering not portraying the actual killing of the birdies, but simply doing an entirely black page with the two eggs smashed and the dead birdie bodies, then a speech bubble from She, saying, "now that wasn't so hard, was it?" in the lower right-hand corner.

I'd have the speech bubble either way, but instead of the dead things, there'd be frames showing Zoe killing them.

I figure I can do the first one and it will transfer in the reader's mind that it was Zoe who did the killing, and they can use their own imaginations to see the violence...but then again, we all know what effect violence has on the average gothie adolescent...

I'd be artistically satisfied either way, but I personally like the first option better than the second, for myself. However, the second might help those of less imagination, as well as adding the ever-lusted after element of an action sequence. I'm so torn... :dizzy:
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Postby Kirse » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:06 pm

subobeyliminal wrote:
ryhmy wrote:I know what you mean... Seeing your own album for sale at the local comicstore... That would be soooo cool :|

But I really think you have good chances :)


Really? ^^ That means a lot coming from such likes yeself...

Seeing my book on a store shelf...::sighs:: ...One of my major dreams is to be at a Con, and to actually have fans that want me to sign their copy of my book...it just brings stars to my eyes thinking about it...::sniffle:: And to see someone wearing my merch. THAT would be sumtin. :wink:

Question, do you think that shying away from gratuitous violence will hurt my chances of being published? 'cause I'm starting work on the next page (the page where the poor little beasties lose their wee lives...) and I'm considering not portraying the actual killing of the birdies, but simply doing an entirely black page with the two eggs smashed and the dead birdie bodies, then a speech bubble from She, saying, "now that wasn't so hard, was it?" in the lower right-hand corner.

I'd have the speech bubble either way, but instead of the dead things, there'd be frames showing Zoe killing them.

I figure I can do the first one and it will transfer in the reader's mind that it was Zoe who did the killing, and they can use their own imaginations to see the violence...but then again, we all know what effect violence has on the average gothie adolescent...

I'd be artistically satisfied either way, but I personally like the first option better than the second, for myself. However, the second might help those of less imagination, as well as adding the ever-lusted after element of an action sequence. I'm so torn... :dizzy:

hey, I never thought of it that way havin fans and all. I'll think I'll get one published meself.:) Ya know it would probably be better to tag some friends along unless you've got it all handled, Be rich togethr!:D
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Postby ryhmy » Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:57 pm

I think the less violent alternative would work better here. Unnecessary blood&guts may seem cool to some people, but it easily seems tasteless and angsty. Your style is pretty artistic and you've already experimenter with different (but cool) pagedesigns (such as Zoe's face behind the panels), so I think the black page would fit in quite nicely.
But that's just my opinion, you should do what you feel like doing :)
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Postby serinoke » Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:55 pm

i have to agree ryhmy on that it would have a stronger impact on the situation...rather that just going nutz with the gore...sometimes less is more....whoa that sounded cheesy....and over all i really like your story so far and i'm really looking forward to more of you stuffs...keep it up
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