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Postby Teim » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:54 am

yes.....yes I did.
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Postby PeeringOffTheEdge » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:33 pm

and really, is that so wrong? don't we all want to be 733t at one point or another? by the way.. isn't it 1337? i think i've seen both though
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Postby J. Maxwell » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:58 am

PeeringOffTheEdge wrote:by the way.. isn't it 1337? i think i've seen both though

That's what I'm getting at, though. It's "1337." "1337" would be "teet," not "leet."
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Postby Teim » Tue Oct 10, 2006 4:04 am

I was hoping noone would notice... 8-)
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well...

Postby Relenz » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:22 pm

[I would normally be all for graphic novels in libraries, but, well...]

[Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm sort of worried about the level of integrity in libraries slipping a bit. I mean, Maus or Persepolis, sure. But last week I found a random collection of recent Joker-themed comic books bound together in my library. Not bad for comikkers, but when there's a limited budget for such things....]


[OOh! OOh! me talkey! new findey! art/srose/crestfallen.jpg! ]
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Re: well...

Postby Rynan » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:59 am

I think you mean "The Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told", which is a collection of Batman comic with The Joker in them. A good read if you want to bone up on the history of The Joker character.

Well, I see your point, But...

What about people like me, who have no comic book shops or any adequate book stores in the area? How are we supposed to be exposed to the rich and diverse world of comic books if all we had was "Maus? "We couldn't" would probably be your answer, so I support Libraries effort to put a wide range of graphic mediums into halls of knowledge. It's not only benefiting "comikkers" , but also average people alike who want to know more about the world of comics.


P.S. Your link doesn't work.
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well...

Postby Relenz » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:11 am

[Here's an actual link, the previous one was more of a pointer.]

http://www.heartshapedskull.com/art/sro ... fallen.jpg

[I would argue that, given the way library systems order books, and given the role libraries are supposed to play in terms of public education, comics accomplish that goal less readily than straight-up books. I'd post more, but late for work...]
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Re: well...

Postby Rynan » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:51 am

Relenz wrote:[I would argue that, given the way library systems order books, and given the role libraries are supposed to play in terms of public education, comics accomplish that goal less readily than straight-up books. I'd post more, but late for work...]


So, if I read you right, your saying reading "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" is more informative than say "The Dark Knight Returns".

I think your confused. The objective of Libraries is not public education, but the collection and storage of books and other materials, which can be used by the community. They are not limited to what they can carry on their shelves. The public has the right to be able to check out graphic novels and Japanese manga, just like they have the right to check out books of art and other more educational materials. If you call into question weither people should be able to check out comic books at library, you should also call into question weither people should be able to check out fiction books at all. Both are forms of escapism and neither of them "educate" the public. Just because one form writing using art to tell a story doesn't mean it's inferior to other writing and certainly doesn't mean it should not be in Libaries.
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Postby subobeyliminal » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:50 pm

Say it like it is, brother!!
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Lucky for Subzy, her library has a huge comics section.
Including the whole Sandman library. :D

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Postby Rynan » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:55 pm

Well, they do have "Black Jack". Volume one at least...
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Sigh...

Postby Relenz » Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:12 pm

[Okay, or we can keep this here.]

[My point isn't about what's good to read. It's about fulfilling the library's goal. One of the major stated purposes of today's public libraries is to encourage literacy on a basic level. Unfortunately, a lot of people, adults particularly, are turned off to the whole graphic novel field, independent of its very definite merits. Within this context, yes, a library will probably choose Harry Potter over The Dark Knight Returns, since the HP series was the first major boosting point to literacy rates at a children's level that's happened in years. I'd imagine countries that have less of a problem with adult and child illiteracy(or a lower non-native language speaking population) don't have to toe the line as much as the US. But this was the explanation given to me when I asked why there are so many Clancies and Harlequin novels stacked on the shelves these days.]

[On a theoretically more valid note, what do you think of my discovery? all foretellingy and such, like that sketchpage that appeared before issue 3.]
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Postby Teim » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:32 am

Thank you H4x0r Relenz, thats pretty cool, makes me wann see more.

On the whole Library thing, I don't go to my Library any more, after my best-friend lost a book on me, shes such a flake. I owe them a heap in Fines..

I think they had "The return of Superman" which spoiled "The Death of Superman" on me forever. The rest was Buffy... they love Buffy in there.
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Postby Ziral » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:58 pm

BUFFY? WHERE DO YOU GO, I'M GOING TO TAKE* IT ALL!



*OKAY, MAYBEE JUST CHECK IT OUT AND RETURN IT TWENTY YEARS LATER, BUT I ALREADY OWE THE LIBRARY FIFTY BUCKS FOR A SERENITY ROSE COMIC AND LENORE...
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Postby Teim » Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:19 am

Ballywaltrim library... somewhere on the east coast.
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Postby Rynan » Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:13 pm

Library Discussion is Over. Let's get back to the topic at hand.

Time for some speculation. IF the second edition of Serenity Rose manga....thing was finished, how do you think the story would've progressed and what new format would it take(if any). I personally find the "traveling around the world" bit interesting idea. It peeks my curosity on how that would've gone about. Would they just have just awakened in a new place in every comic or what? Also, would it even be about Serenity or would the story have shifted to Vicious's POV, like it has now, with Serenity taking a backseat?

Any thoughts?
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