Plancescape: Torment

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Plancescape: Torment

Postby The Flying Dracula Hair » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:50 pm

I beat this game somewhat recently (as a full Wisdom good guy, I think the most satisfying way to play the game) and wanted to know if anyone else was a fan. It has come to be probably my favorite game of all time.
One the best games I've ever played, certainly the most emotionally involving one. I'm thinking about it again because I've been reading a sort of "book" someone made by combining all main dialogue from his favorite 'path' (high Wis good dude). Great stuff, it was really a fantastically written game.

Absolutely recommended to everybody, I can send it to anybody who's interested. It's pretty old though, so if you find it it's probably pretty cheap.

I'd be especially curious if Mr. A has played it.
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Postby PeonChrist » Fri May 22, 2009 1:59 am

I couldn't bring myself to read the book. My memory's gone to shit over the years, but I vaguely recall someone telling me that the Nameless One takes a name in it.

Stuff like that isn't at all kosher.
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Postby alphatroll » Fri May 22, 2009 2:15 pm

even tho I played D&D for literally decades, all I rilly know about Planescape is the totally awesome Tony diTerlizzi art :D
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Postby The Flying Dracula Hair » Fri May 22, 2009 9:34 pm

PeonChrist wrote:I couldn't bring myself to read the book. My memory's gone to shit over the years, but I vaguely recall someone telling me that the Nameless One takes a name in it.

Stuff like that isn't at all kosher.


A fan! :D

Oh, and it's some wicked stupid name like "Bobthias" or something, but that's official book.
Some fan cobbled together a book by gluing all the dialogue together with general scenery and character descriptions. It's cool if you've played the game several times and you want to visit those moments without having to get there again.
Though of course the story was meant to be told as a game, so I definitely don't recommend it as literature.

Alpha - I'm unfamiliar with it completely, except for the game, but what the creators do with the setting is masterful. You should plays it :B
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Postby PeonChrist » Sat May 23, 2009 9:53 pm

The Flying Dracula Hair wrote:
PeonChrist wrote:I couldn't bring myself to read the book. My memory's gone to shit over the years, but I vaguely recall someone telling me that the Nameless One takes a name in it.

Stuff like that isn't at all kosher.


A fan! :D

Oh, and it's some wicked stupid name like "Bobthias" or something, but that's official book.
Some fan cobbled together a book by gluing all the dialogue together with general scenery and character descriptions. It's cool if you've played the game several times and you want to visit those moments without having to get there again.
Though of course the story was meant to be told as a game, so I definitely don't recommend it as literature.

Alpha - I'm unfamiliar with it completely, except for the game, but what the creators do with the setting is masterful. You should plays it :B

More or less. Granted, I haven't played PST in almost eight years.
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Postby Slinker » Sun May 24, 2009 6:55 am

Always been intresting in playing that game. But never had been able to.

But I really like the game style and story. Reminds me sort of of "Vampire Bloodlines"
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Postby alphatroll » Tue May 26, 2009 2:13 pm

The Flying Dracula Hair wrote:Alpha - I'm unfamiliar with it completely, except for the game, but what the creators do with the setting is masterful. You should plays it :B


video games gradually became completely uninteresting to me over the late '90s/early oughts. And the "real" RPG experience (or maybe something else) has made CRPGs an excercise in frustration that only got worse as the games got more advanced. i mean, Bard's Tale was reasonably fun, back when i liked those things, but actually making them *more* sophisticated just makes the inadequacies more glaring to me. fwiw.

coincidentally, i lost all interest in TV in the late '90s too. or maybe not coincidental, i dunno.

And there's *no possible* way any game designers could make it look anywhere near as cool as diTerlizzi did anyway, any more than a manga sequel could compare to Henson & Froud's masterpiece :wink:
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Postby PeonChrist » Tue May 26, 2009 3:52 pm

alphatroll wrote:
The Flying Dracula Hair wrote:Alpha - I'm unfamiliar with it completely, except for the game, but what the creators do with the setting is masterful. You should plays it :B


video games gradually became completely uninteresting to me over the late '90s/early oughts. And the "real" RPG experience (or maybe something else) has made CRPGs an excercise in frustration that only got worse as the games got more advanced. i mean, Bard's Tale was reasonably fun, back when i liked those things, but actually making them *more* sophisticated just makes the inadequacies more glaring to me. fwiw.

coincidentally, i lost all interest in TV in the late '90s too. or maybe not coincidental, i dunno.

And there's *no possible* way any game designers could make it look anywhere near as cool as diTerlizzi did anyway, any more than a manga sequel could compare to Henson & Froud's masterpiece :wink:

That statement's a bit biased, don't you think? Of course you'll be able to do more on a tabletop than on a computer, provided your DM is willing to go the extra distance and make things interesting.

That said, the fact that a game has a predetermined path doesn't change the story itself. PS:T is well written, regardless of whether or not it captures the tabletop experience.
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Postby The Flying Dracula Hair » Tue May 26, 2009 6:25 pm

alphatroll wrote:
The Flying Dracula Hair wrote:Alpha - I'm unfamiliar with it completely, except for the game, but what the creators do with the setting is masterful. You should plays it :B


video games gradually became completely uninteresting to me over the late '90s/early oughts. And the "real" RPG experience (or maybe something else) has made CRPGs an excercise in frustration that only got worse as the games got more advanced. i mean, Bard's Tale was reasonably fun, back when i liked those things, but actually making them *more* sophisticated just makes the inadequacies more glaring to me. fwiw.

coincidentally, i lost all interest in TV in the late '90s too. or maybe not coincidental, i dunno.

And there's *no possible* way any game designers could make it look anywhere near as cool as diTerlizzi did anyway, any more than a manga sequel could compare to Henson & Froud's masterpiece :wink:


I think this is very thoughtful, but somewhat naive, since that's isn't purpose of many great games. There's plenty of completely non-interactive worlds I'd like to play in, in an "open" environment. That's not the point, though, right?
P:T has a story to tell and wants you to experience it, you definitely have a a considerable amount of freedom, but it has to bring your character to certain set conclusions to work as itself.

Much like Watchmen tells a story made for a comic and best told as a comic, Plansescape tells a story made for a computer game, best told as a computer game. It has it's problems, and actually isn't that sophisticated, and some people find it too long/boring/stupid/etc., but that's something many classic movies face as well.
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Postby alphatroll » Wed May 27, 2009 3:01 pm

PeonChrist wrote:That statement's a bit biased, don't you think?

Guilty as charged, yeah. :D Oh well..... come to think of it, that's what the "fwif" was about :wink:
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Postby alphatroll » Wed May 27, 2009 3:05 pm

The Flying Dracula Hair wrote:I think this is very thoughtful, but somewhat naive......

Definately not intended as a "fact"! Video games just don't "float my boat" anymore, for whatever variety of reasons. I just piped in 'cause that amazing old Planescape art came to mind.
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Postby PeonChrist » Wed May 27, 2009 3:25 pm

alphatroll wrote:
PeonChrist wrote:That statement's a bit biased, don't you think?

Guilty as charged, yeah. :D Oh well..... come to think of it, that's what the "fwif" was about :wink:

I've never heard the term fwif~
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Postby alphatroll » Wed May 27, 2009 3:28 pm

PeonChrist wrote:
alphatroll wrote:
PeonChrist wrote:That statement's a bit biased, don't you think?

Guilty as charged, yeah. :D Oh well..... come to think of it, that's what the "fwif" was about :wink:

I've never heard the term fwif~

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Postby PeonChrist » Wed May 27, 2009 3:34 pm

alphatroll wrote:
PeonChrist wrote:
alphatroll wrote:
PeonChrist wrote:That statement's a bit biased, don't you think?

Guilty as charged, yeah. :D Oh well..... come to think of it, that's what the "fwif" was about :wink:

I've never heard the term fwif~

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